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[Locked] Gnome (3.0) in the Shell
lylambda Français 8 fabounet [Read]
14 April 2011 à 10:45

lylambda, Thursday 07 April 2011 à 18:08


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On voit un peu partout des annonces indiquant la sortie de Gnome 3.0.
Avec Unity qui, de son coté, accompagnera le narval, je me demandais comment CD va s'insérer dans ces changements d'interface. Va t'il remplacer les docks par défaut tout en utilisant les diverses gestions de fenêtre ? Faudra-t'il supprimer ces nouvelles interfaces pour remettre notre duo classique CD/Compiz ? Ou est-ce encore en cours de réflexion/développement ?

En tout cas, tout ça doit apporter encore plus de boulot

fabounet, Friday 08 April 2011 à 16:57


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je pense que le mieux est encore d'utiliser Compiz + Cairo-dock seuls.
donc tout simplement de ne pas démarrer le shell (Unity ou Gnome-Shell).
donc en fait, comme ce qu'on fait déjà (en tout cas pour moi: pas de gnome-panel).

si leur truc est bien fait, ça ne devrait pas impacter le système.
par contre pour Gnome apparemment il faudra aussi virer Clutter (alors que pour Unity il suffit juste de virer leur double panel)

lylambda, Sunday 10 April 2011 à 19:06


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Donc solution 2 ! Vivement que les appli se mettent au nouveau protocole de systray. On pourra enfin virer les panels par défaut des distrib.

jesuisbenjamin, Tuesday 12 April 2011 à 16:21


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Gnome 3 looks very good. I just don't like the Unity thing at all however. The idea to have my icons on the left only really irritates me and this screen blacking out when looking for apps is annoying and looks dead. For the rest it looks amazing.
It's an important point though: how will this impact Cairo? When i look at Cairo, i sometime feel it needs to integrate more rather than focus on some less relevant applets. Right now i still feel that Cairo is a bit too cumbersome, it should get swifter and smarter. Gnome 3 is going to give some tough(er) standards from now on.

taiebot65, Tuesday 12 April 2011 à 19:41


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jesuisbenjamin :
When i look at Cairo, i sometime feel it needs to integrate more rather than focus on some less relevant applets. Right now i still feel that Cairo is a bit too cumbersome, it should get swifter and smarter. Gnome 3 is going to give some tough(er) standards from now on.


Thanks god you were not here for the previous version. Cairo-dock has improved a lot from previous version on the usability side
But i think you misunderstand the choices cairo-dock is making as compare to unity and gnome-shell.
Cairo-dock is fully configurable Gnome-shell and unity are not.

I think cairo-dock should bring more audacious ideas like tighter integration with compiz to be really integrated to the desktop or tighter integration with zeitgest. After it's all too the designers of the theme. Beautiful theme with good behaviour will make cairo-dock a 1st choice on a lots of desktop.

jesuisbenjamin, Wednesday 13 April 2011 à 00:34


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Yes you are right. In fact i tried Gnome 3 and found it mediocre.

fabounet, Wednesday 13 April 2011 à 16:23


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I think cairo-dock should bring more audacious ideas like tighter integration with compiz to be really integrated to the desktop or tighter integration with zeitgest


well that's already the case in the 2.3
or maybe you were thinking about something else ?

After it's all to the designers of the theme

indeed, a good theme is a pretty and convenient interface to the desktop !

how will this impact Cairo?

it probably means that Cairo-Dock is now another way (the dock + Compiz can be seen as a complete shell on top of a Gnome/KDE/XFCE environment).
and yes respecting the standards is the big point, as the dock is the interface to the desktop, but it also depends on how the desktop itself follows the standards

taiebot65, Wednesday 13 April 2011 à 19:08


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fabounet :

I think cairo-dock should bring more audacious ideas like tighter integration with compiz to be really integrated to the desktop or tighter integration with zeitgest


well that's already the case in the 2.3
or maybe you were thinking about something else ?


For compiz i think we should be able to import the config as well. Because a lots of effect could be added via for example the compiz widget layer being enable. preview of the windows etc... All those are availale only when you tweak compiz.. Cairo should allow you to integrate those as well.

fabounet, Thursday 14 April 2011 à 10:45


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hmm, indeed, maybe it could be in the help module (there are already several actions like that).

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[Locked] Gnome (3.0) in the Shell
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