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[Locked] How to edit menu items using Ubuntu?
williammanda English 16 williammanda [Read]
05 March 2012 à 16:58

williammanda, Thursday 01 March 2012 à 20:51


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Cairo ver - 3.0.0.0beta1
With effects (no unity)
Ubuntu 12.4 64 bit
Using opengl
Compiz (what comes standard)
Gnome
Intel 2405S Sandy Bridge w/ 4GB ram

Since Ubuntu doesn't use gnome, I'm looking for a feature that will allow me to edit / create the menu items ie Firefox, root file manager (this is one I would create), etc... under the applications menu. Right now I use the program alacarte which shows up as Main Menu. I can edit, hide, create, etc... any item in the applications menu. But I have to load gnome-shell to get this feature, I can't just load alacarte since it will cause problems with Ubuntu and unity. Is there another way that is user friendly, uses a gui, that your could recommend or am I doing the only way that is possible now?

fabounet, Friday 02 March 2012 à 12:55


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But I have to load gnome-shell to get this feature

I don't think so, you can perfectly install alacaret only, just be sure to not install the recommended packages.
alacarte is the only program I know to edit the menu, maybe XFCE has its own, but still, I'm convinced it's possible to use alacarte oustide of gnome.

williammanda, Friday 02 March 2012 à 13:03


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fabounet :
But I have to load gnome-shell to get this feature

I don't think so, you can perfectly install alacaret only, just be sure to not install the recommended packages.
alacarte is the only program I know to edit the menu, maybe XFCE has its own, but still, I'm convinced it's possible to use alacarte oustide of gnome.


Have you done this or is this theory?

williammanda, Friday 02 March 2012 à 14:05


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Also I'm not sure how to install a program without the dependencies. Is this possible?

SQP, Friday 02 March 2012 à 14:41


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I had the same problem since I moved to mint a month ago, and I just installed alacarte.
I had nothing more to install (no dependencies that wasn't already on my system), and it worked fine on my cairo-gnome (no shell or panel) session

sudo apt-get install alacarte


(I just waited to know if there was something supposed to replace alacarte with their new gnome3 "everything need to be changed" crap)

williammanda, Friday 02 March 2012 à 14:44


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SQP :
I had the same problem since I moved to mint a month ago, and I just installed alacarte.
I had nothing more to install (no dependencies that wasn't already on my system), and it worked fine on my cairo-gnome (no shell or panel) session

sudo apt-get install alacarte


(I just waited to know if there was something supposed to replace alacarte with their new gnome3 "everything need to be changed" crap)


In ubuntu 12.4 your are forced to use the dependencies if installing alacarte. Ubuntu is moving away from gnome where as mint is not.

matttbe, Friday 02 March 2012 à 15:11


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Also I'm not sure how to install a program without the dependencies. Is this possible?
No, dependencies are required to launch your program. But you can install a package without the recommended packages
But alacarte doesn't need a lot of extra dependences:
python (>= 2.7.1-0ubuntu2), python-gtk2 (>= 2.13.0), python-gmenu (>= 2.27.92), gnome-menus (>= 2.27.92) | libgarcon-common, python-gobject (>= 2.15.1)
I'm sure that all of them (except maybe python-gtk2) are already installed on your distribution.

williammanda, Friday 02 March 2012 à 15:17


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matttbe :
Also I'm not sure how to install a program without the dependencies. Is this possible?
No, dependencies are required to launch your program. But you can install a package without the recommended packages
But alacarte doesn't need a lot of extra dependences:
python (>= 2.7.1-0ubuntu2), python-gtk2 (>= 2.13.0), python-gmenu (>= 2.27.92), gnome-menus (>= 2.27.92) | libgarcon-common, python-gobject (>= 2.15.1)
I'm sure that all of them are already installed on your distribution.


Ok...I'm not sure what everyone else is using but I'm using Ubuntu 12.4 and if I install alacarte then it has alot of dependencies and when installed it causes problems with the OS. The only way I know of so far it to install gnome-shell so that the issues created by just installing alacarte are corrected. I invite anyone to try Ubuntu 12.4 and see if you get the same result. As I stated earlier...Ubuntu is moving away from gnome so typical gnome is not supported out of the box.

williammanda, Friday 02 March 2012 à 15:20


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Also I need to inform you that I tried working this problem out with Ubuntu and I was told what I posted in the previous post.

matttbe, Friday 02 March 2012 à 15:27


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I'm using Ubuntu 12.4 since the release of Oneiric and alacarte is working well.

Ubuntu is moving away from gnome so typical gnome is not supported out of the box.
Ubuntu is not moving away from Gnome, they just use another interface instead of using Gnome-Classic or Gnome-Shell but they still use a Gnome session (Unity interface is launched with gnome-session).

But it seems alacarte is still using gtk2 and most of gtk2 apps are now using GTK3 (just like Cairo-Dock). But you can install both GTK2 and GTK3.

williammanda, Friday 02 March 2012 à 15:30


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williammanda :
Cairo ver - 3.0.0.0beta1
With effects (no unity)
Ubuntu 12.4 64 bit
Using opengl
Compiz (what comes standard)
Gnome
Intel 2405S Sandy Bridge w/ 4GB ram

Since Ubuntu doesn't use gnome, I'm looking for a feature that will allow me to edit / create the menu items ie Firefox, root file manager (this is one I would create), etc... under the applications menu. Right now I use the program alacarte which shows up as Main Menu. I can edit, hide, create, etc... any item in the applications menu. But I have to load gnome-shell to get this feature, I can't just load alacarte since it will cause problems with Ubuntu and unity. Is there another way that is user friendly, uses a gui, that your could recommend or am I doing the only way that is possible now?


Ok I appreciate all the input but it seems the easiest way to resolve the issue what I am currently doing.
Thanks

williammanda, Saturday 03 March 2012 à 16:12


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I believe this is what I was looking for....
In the second post:

http://glx-dock.org/bg_topic.php?t=5898

matttbe :
Can you do a right click on the application menu icon / Configure the menu


The Main Menu program comes up. I will test this further on my next install.

williammanda, Saturday 03 March 2012 à 18:55


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After doing another install it seems that alacarte needs to be installed to access the main menu via cairo dock. So I'm back to my original fix.

SQP, Saturday 03 March 2012 à 19:40


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yes this option only launch alacarte on gnome, (or we can try to use better if you find)

fabounet, Monday 05 March 2012 à 13:30


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sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends alacarte

should let you install alacarte with the minimum dependancies

williammanda, Monday 05 March 2012 à 15:10


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fabounet :
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends alacarte

should let you install alacarte with the minimum dependancies


I will try this on the next install.

williammanda, Monday 05 March 2012 à 16:58


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fabounet :
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends alacarte

should let you install alacarte with the minimum dependancies


This corrected a problem but created a new one. Two files, alacarte python-gmenu, were installed. I can enable / disable items in the menu currently but can't add any new items.

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[Locked] How to edit menu items using Ubuntu?
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05 March 2012 à 16:58


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